terraphantm
May 2, 11:30 PM
I don't think so.
I think clear photo's showing calipers proves they are the same.
The poor photo's with zero depth of field and a stick off the side to compare thickness doesn't cut it.
Get them to put the calipers to it.
Some Apple big guy says don't believe all the junk your read, and that clinches it for me. It's pretty much an Apple statement telling you that they are the same.
So you still believe engadget on this?
(if there is some production issue like a swelling lipo battery, then I could see thickness issues, but it's a huge mistake if they made it different thickness. What the heck would I do with my iPhone4 dock?)
tipb used calipers and found a difference. Otterbox also says there are compatibility issues. They're in the business of selling cases, they wouldn't tell customers not to buy them for no reason. If it's not supposed to be thicker, then there are a few possibilities I can think of:
1) There was a bad batch that went around. The white iPhone certainly seemed to have its hiccups - many of them came a with a test version of the OS
2) Apple revised *all* iPhone 4s, and the only reason people are noticing a difference is because they compared to a near launch phone. It'd be interesting to compare a black one from the same week.
I think clear photo's showing calipers proves they are the same.
The poor photo's with zero depth of field and a stick off the side to compare thickness doesn't cut it.
Get them to put the calipers to it.
Some Apple big guy says don't believe all the junk your read, and that clinches it for me. It's pretty much an Apple statement telling you that they are the same.
So you still believe engadget on this?
(if there is some production issue like a swelling lipo battery, then I could see thickness issues, but it's a huge mistake if they made it different thickness. What the heck would I do with my iPhone4 dock?)
tipb used calipers and found a difference. Otterbox also says there are compatibility issues. They're in the business of selling cases, they wouldn't tell customers not to buy them for no reason. If it's not supposed to be thicker, then there are a few possibilities I can think of:
1) There was a bad batch that went around. The white iPhone certainly seemed to have its hiccups - many of them came a with a test version of the OS
2) Apple revised *all* iPhone 4s, and the only reason people are noticing a difference is because they compared to a near launch phone. It'd be interesting to compare a black one from the same week.
Mr. Retrofire
Jun 19, 12:10 PM
Does the mac mini support sd card peripherals (modems etc.)? I believe the capability is included in the sdxc spec.
Mac OS X has to support it, not the Mac mini.
Mac OS X has to support it, not the Mac mini.
iMacThere4Iam
Apr 14, 01:56 PM
Not so sure about this guy. Based on the picture, he seems to have that "deer staring at headlights" look that all M$ employees display, especially Ballmer.
First thing he's going to have to get used to is that once he comes up with an idea (and let's all hope it's an original one, considering the fact he's moving from Redmond), it won't be just barely good enough to foist on an unsuspecting public for decades.
Innovate, man, innovate! Start with a different shirt.
First thing he's going to have to get used to is that once he comes up with an idea (and let's all hope it's an original one, considering the fact he's moving from Redmond), it won't be just barely good enough to foist on an unsuspecting public for decades.
Innovate, man, innovate! Start with a different shirt.
Chupa Chupa
Apr 5, 08:57 AM
Actually I figured they'd pick a netbook at the best tablet. :D
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MacCoaster
Sep 22, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by wilburpan
Here's the link to their rating of an iMac 800MHz G4 and a 1.8Ghz P4, which puts the two within shouting distance of each other.
http://www.cpuscorecard.com/sys_premium.htm
I stand corrected, however, they are still 7 percentiles apart. So yes, shouting distance. But what would the 55-percentile Pentium 4 speed be? 1.5-1.6GHz? Maybe less?
Here's the link to their rating of an iMac 800MHz G4 and a 1.8Ghz P4, which puts the two within shouting distance of each other.
http://www.cpuscorecard.com/sys_premium.htm
I stand corrected, however, they are still 7 percentiles apart. So yes, shouting distance. But what would the 55-percentile Pentium 4 speed be? 1.5-1.6GHz? Maybe less?
Musubi
Nov 12, 05:38 AM
There are also a couple of other Flash(?) skits they do (at least it sounds like them...it is just (minimal) animation) riffing on Tokyo train station names (called kyoubashi ??) and on prefecture names (ibaraki ??) that are amusing. Especially if you see yourself in that particular language class.
Ah, those were classic. I have the Shimbashi and Chiba skits with the ２ちゃねる flash animation here (http://www.nippon-media.net/db/mediaportal/browse.php?album=29).
Ah, those were classic. I have the Shimbashi and Chiba skits with the ２ちゃねる flash animation here (http://www.nippon-media.net/db/mediaportal/browse.php?album=29).
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ken138888
Mar 18, 10:15 AM
7RMB/1L China:o
KnightWRX
Apr 23, 01:21 PM
If being a real man equals only being able to ride slowly in a straight line and have a "pay attention to me" exhaust, then yes. (This also applies to sportbike riders in long beach, ca)
Otherwise, real men ride Triumphs. :cool:
My exhaust is a Screaming Eagle model, it's not "pay attention to me" at all. Harley stock exhausts aren't loud. A loud harley has aftermarket pipes or someone just unbolted the baffles.
And the dyna chassis is made for twisties just fine, but what's the point, a Harley is mostly to cruise or tour, why wouldn't I want to go slowly in a straight line ? What's the rush ? The fun is riding, not getting to a particular destination.
Of course the "real men" comment wasn't too bright, but your bashing of Harley-Davidsons is quite stereotypical and ignorant.
Otherwise, real men ride Triumphs. :cool:
My exhaust is a Screaming Eagle model, it's not "pay attention to me" at all. Harley stock exhausts aren't loud. A loud harley has aftermarket pipes or someone just unbolted the baffles.
And the dyna chassis is made for twisties just fine, but what's the point, a Harley is mostly to cruise or tour, why wouldn't I want to go slowly in a straight line ? What's the rush ? The fun is riding, not getting to a particular destination.
Of course the "real men" comment wasn't too bright, but your bashing of Harley-Davidsons is quite stereotypical and ignorant.
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lkrupp
Apr 5, 10:19 AM
The iPhone 4 was and still is the best
Well, if we were vehement about dismissing their review of the iPhone 4 as flawed then shouoldn't we be consistent and do the same for the iPad. If they're not worth paying attention to because of bad review then why laud them for picking the iPad as the best tablet. I'm just say'in.
Well, if we were vehement about dismissing their review of the iPhone 4 as flawed then shouoldn't we be consistent and do the same for the iPad. If they're not worth paying attention to because of bad review then why laud them for picking the iPad as the best tablet. I'm just say'in.
tlove
Apr 4, 08:13 PM
There is already a movie about this, iRobot. Apples new division will be called Ai.
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solvs
Sep 15, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
I'll PM you about it, since it would move the thread well off topic.
Yeah, cuz that never happens. ;)
Actually, I just wanted to point out to everyone that the G4 uses a 167 MHz FSB, and the new G3 is CAPABLE of a 200 MHz FSB. The P4s use a Quad pumped 133 FSB (533 effective, kinda). The "old" one used a Quad 100 (400 effective). Now the Celeron uses the 400. But they are HOT, and take A LOT of energy to run.
The AMDs used a 100 MHz DDR FSB for the old Athlons and the Durons (200 kinda, because it's rising and falling), and DDR 133 for the "newer" Athlons (which they call 266). No CPU yet uses a 333 FSB, DDR or otherwise. AMD will soon, but it's Vaporware for now. And if DDRSDRAM only adds about a 5-20% increase over SDRAM, even when used properly, do the math.
Do you really think they're getting the full 533 or 266?
Just thought I'd clear that up.
I would go off about MHz myths and pipeline stages and other boring things that are often misunderstood, but I'm tired. And I'd rather not put myself to sleep. I just hope Apple can win oer the newbies with something cheap and easy, and keep the professionals with something fast enough to at least keep paces in some stuff with a similarly configured WinTel.
OS X is great, but if I can render something in 1/3 the time for 1/3 the price, what do you think I'm gonna choose?
I'll PM you about it, since it would move the thread well off topic.
Yeah, cuz that never happens. ;)
Actually, I just wanted to point out to everyone that the G4 uses a 167 MHz FSB, and the new G3 is CAPABLE of a 200 MHz FSB. The P4s use a Quad pumped 133 FSB (533 effective, kinda). The "old" one used a Quad 100 (400 effective). Now the Celeron uses the 400. But they are HOT, and take A LOT of energy to run.
The AMDs used a 100 MHz DDR FSB for the old Athlons and the Durons (200 kinda, because it's rising and falling), and DDR 133 for the "newer" Athlons (which they call 266). No CPU yet uses a 333 FSB, DDR or otherwise. AMD will soon, but it's Vaporware for now. And if DDRSDRAM only adds about a 5-20% increase over SDRAM, even when used properly, do the math.
Do you really think they're getting the full 533 or 266?
Just thought I'd clear that up.
I would go off about MHz myths and pipeline stages and other boring things that are often misunderstood, but I'm tired. And I'd rather not put myself to sleep. I just hope Apple can win oer the newbies with something cheap and easy, and keep the professionals with something fast enough to at least keep paces in some stuff with a similarly configured WinTel.
OS X is great, but if I can render something in 1/3 the time for 1/3 the price, what do you think I'm gonna choose?
AlphaAnt
Dec 28, 09:28 AM
2) which other carriers will Apple partner with.
If it's Verizon or T-Mobile, I wouldn't consider it a step up. I might consider going back to Sprint now that they've considerably improved their customer service and prices. For me, Verizon would be a lateral move, as their customer service, prices and billing are a serious detractor, and their network is actually worse that AT&T's here where I am.
Verdict: All American cell companies are garbage, period. Just another reason I'm considering moving overseas.
If it's Verizon or T-Mobile, I wouldn't consider it a step up. I might consider going back to Sprint now that they've considerably improved their customer service and prices. For me, Verizon would be a lateral move, as their customer service, prices and billing are a serious detractor, and their network is actually worse that AT&T's here where I am.
Verdict: All American cell companies are garbage, period. Just another reason I'm considering moving overseas.
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coolant113
Jun 7, 03:29 PM
I am getting rid of my iphone 8gb... i am selling it for 275.00... i will Jailbreak it and Unlock it if you want me to... I will Post pics tonight....I WILL SELL INTERNATIONALY I am trying to sell on here before i sell it on ebay.. thanks.. PM Me it has a slight dent in the bottom antenna cover you can hardly realize it. You can buy a new one online:apple::apple:
I have dropped the price by 175 dollars any takers??
I have dropped the price by 175 dollars any takers??
Blue Sun
May 2, 08:31 PM
IMO the older silver MBP's are nicer looking than the current unibody design.
If the old design had the same thickness as the new ones and the same unibody structure, I'd be all over it!
If the old design had the same thickness as the new ones and the same unibody structure, I'd be all over it!
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backdraft
Mar 24, 10:39 AM
Apple has to at least match the toughbook for harsher climates and conditions:
http://www.panasonic.com/business/Toughbook/toughbook-products.asp
The military and the Army has had a "dialogue" with Apple for years... pretty much every project involving a piece of field equipment has gone to another manufacturer because of durability concerns.
http://www.panasonic.com/business/Toughbook/toughbook-products.asp
The military and the Army has had a "dialogue" with Apple for years... pretty much every project involving a piece of field equipment has gone to another manufacturer because of durability concerns.
HBOC
Mar 19, 06:27 PM
I agree with most of what you say, except.... I don't get the "Shoot only Full Manual" advice that is heard here and in other places.
If I have spent some $$ on a camera with a computer and a light meter, I figure I'm going to make it do at some of the work. The way I see it, I have a management job, and that is to decide what DoF and/or apparent motion I want to capture (composition) - and to ensure good exposure (quality control). The camera gets to do the grunt work of doing the calculations. It's the back-office.
Generally I use Aperture Priority, and let the camera worry itself over the shutter speed. Though, being the suspicious boss type, I'm always checking over the Camera's work and watching the settings. That way I can step in and make changes if necessary.
I figure I'm thinking through the cycle anyway. I like DoF control, so I generally start with Av. I observe the shutter speed - make sure I'm fast enough if I'm handholding, or perhaps I want to freeze or blur something. (Or if I'm on a tripod can I get away with triggering with a light finger or do I need to go to a timer or cable release).
Then I observe the overall exposure. Do I need to adjust the +/- thingy?
I guess it's the difference between :
Think -> Look -> Think -> Make a Setting -> Push Button (Manual)
Think -> Look -> Adjust if necessary -> Push Button (Av or Tv).
Seems faster my way, and just as accurate. And maybe more accurate if I'm tired. ... but maybe I'm missing something?
I'm really enjoying this whole thread..... :)
Well shooting manual works for what I do. I doubt any sports photographers use anything other than Aperture Priority mode I would think.
If I have spent some $$ on a camera with a computer and a light meter, I figure I'm going to make it do at some of the work. The way I see it, I have a management job, and that is to decide what DoF and/or apparent motion I want to capture (composition) - and to ensure good exposure (quality control). The camera gets to do the grunt work of doing the calculations. It's the back-office.
Generally I use Aperture Priority, and let the camera worry itself over the shutter speed. Though, being the suspicious boss type, I'm always checking over the Camera's work and watching the settings. That way I can step in and make changes if necessary.
I figure I'm thinking through the cycle anyway. I like DoF control, so I generally start with Av. I observe the shutter speed - make sure I'm fast enough if I'm handholding, or perhaps I want to freeze or blur something. (Or if I'm on a tripod can I get away with triggering with a light finger or do I need to go to a timer or cable release).
Then I observe the overall exposure. Do I need to adjust the +/- thingy?
I guess it's the difference between :
Think -> Look -> Think -> Make a Setting -> Push Button (Manual)
Think -> Look -> Adjust if necessary -> Push Button (Av or Tv).
Seems faster my way, and just as accurate. And maybe more accurate if I'm tired. ... but maybe I'm missing something?
I'm really enjoying this whole thread..... :)
Well shooting manual works for what I do. I doubt any sports photographers use anything other than Aperture Priority mode I would think.
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bruinsrme
Apr 5, 08:09 AM
yeah I can see his point.
However there will be efforts to make it like a pc through accessorizing the device
However there will be efforts to make it like a pc through accessorizing the device
Alvi
Feb 18, 10:53 AM
Notice Steve is the only guy without wine?
Actually, there are just two guys with Wine in the whole room, they all have water or something like that... (Check out the big flickr pic from the previous poster)
Actually, there are just two guys with Wine in the whole room, they all have water or something like that... (Check out the big flickr pic from the previous poster)
alamein
Nov 26, 11:08 PM
sexy
http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/#gallery02
http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/#gallery02
ivan2002
Apr 12, 04:56 PM
Why do you say 2000 people is not a large enough sample? Do you know statistical sampling methods?
I'm not saying this survey isn't flawed... just sample size doesn't have to be that large.
It seems that most people are not aware of the fact that 30 is large enough sample for almost any population, and that the main challenge is not in increasing the sample size, it's in making it truly random.
I'm not saying this survey isn't flawed... just sample size doesn't have to be that large.
It seems that most people are not aware of the fact that 30 is large enough sample for almost any population, and that the main challenge is not in increasing the sample size, it's in making it truly random.
rsocal
Apr 2, 10:45 AM
Just buy a Slingbox and watch any channel you want, anywhere you want.
Absolutely, I have a sling box and use it for both my iPhone and iPad.:cool:
It works great, I've been very happy with it, the App that makes it work on iPad/iPhone works great as well!:D:apple:
Absolutely, I have a sling box and use it for both my iPhone and iPad.:cool:
It works great, I've been very happy with it, the App that makes it work on iPad/iPhone works great as well!:D:apple:
Dooger
Mar 20, 07:30 AM
Everyone seems so shocked by the minor discount they don't stop to think a little broader...
....this probably means Apple is already pricing these exceptionally low and can't discount them any more than that.
Further I seem to recall the iPhone and iTouch weren't available for volume or educational purchasing for quite some time... I know they weren't available through bussiness accounts for a quite some time.
The other thing this suggests is that there won't be a $100 price drop in 3-6 months like there was on the iPhone... if they were to be able to drop the pricing that much in the near future they'd offer education a bigger discount now.
Finally for those that don't see why these would be a boon for universities... most students going into university already have laptop, they don't really want to buy new laptops through their university. Requiring all incoming students but a $500 iPad is a lot more palatable than requiring they all by $2000 laptops. Having the entire student body standardized on one platform is huge for teachers and authors.
What drugs are you taking? Have you been to university? How is a student supposed to do a dissertation on a glorified iPhone? I'm doing an MSc and I need stats software, a pdf viewer and word running concurrently. As for the $2k laptop? Try $999 for a MB (less with a student discount)
I don't have a huge problem with apple offering these to schools but the price is far too steep. If they do somehow manage to crowbar their iPads into schools they'll be indoctrinating the younger generation into apple computing whilst still shifting units for a hefty mark-up. Good work apple, but you should twist the knife a little more and make the schools pay for the shipping.
....this probably means Apple is already pricing these exceptionally low and can't discount them any more than that.
Further I seem to recall the iPhone and iTouch weren't available for volume or educational purchasing for quite some time... I know they weren't available through bussiness accounts for a quite some time.
The other thing this suggests is that there won't be a $100 price drop in 3-6 months like there was on the iPhone... if they were to be able to drop the pricing that much in the near future they'd offer education a bigger discount now.
Finally for those that don't see why these would be a boon for universities... most students going into university already have laptop, they don't really want to buy new laptops through their university. Requiring all incoming students but a $500 iPad is a lot more palatable than requiring they all by $2000 laptops. Having the entire student body standardized on one platform is huge for teachers and authors.
What drugs are you taking? Have you been to university? How is a student supposed to do a dissertation on a glorified iPhone? I'm doing an MSc and I need stats software, a pdf viewer and word running concurrently. As for the $2k laptop? Try $999 for a MB (less with a student discount)
I don't have a huge problem with apple offering these to schools but the price is far too steep. If they do somehow manage to crowbar their iPads into schools they'll be indoctrinating the younger generation into apple computing whilst still shifting units for a hefty mark-up. Good work apple, but you should twist the knife a little more and make the schools pay for the shipping.
GeekLawyer
Apr 21, 01:28 PM
4S. I like the name, and it makes sense to keep continuity with the previous naming scheme (3GS). I guess we'll see a true iPhone 5 next summer.But then they would have to call it the iPhone 6.
Dreadnought
Nov 15, 02:49 PM
If you are interested, look at post #94. Also read this whole thread, there are a lot of good ideas for the widget mentioned.
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